One day it’s Boy Scouts, the next day it’s transgendered military ‘rights’ to fight the Empire’s Wars

One day it’s Boy Scouts, the next day it’s transgendered military ‘rights’ to fight the Empire’s Wars. What will tomorrow bring?
Please, ……. don’t. I don’t wanna know.
Because:
Nothing about the whys or rationale regarding the Empire’s Wars.
Because:
Sanctions against Russia.
Because: Syria and Yemen.
Because: of a host of hugely significant and consequential actions going down right now whose thunderous implications are being stolen in the wake of the spurious DNC/Clinton Inc & Ilk Russian “hacking” allegations that are paving the way for Israel & AIPAC to rub our Bill of Rights in our faces after using it to wipe their asses and hack loogies into it.
A fucking felony to criticize Israel. A minimum of a $250,000 fine and years in PRISON!!
WTF!, people, WTF? Have you lost your fucking marbles to be ignoring this?
MAYDAY! MAYDAY! MAYDAY!

25 thoughts on “One day it’s Boy Scouts, the next day it’s transgendered military ‘rights’ to fight the Empire’s Wars”

  1. David, it’s not “Israel and AIPAC” running the US government policies. It’s what’s called the Ruling Class. Okay? It’s not that I think you’re antisemitic, I’m sure you’re not, BUT you are using the old “Jews run everything” slur that does back to the Medieval period, and not only is it a slur but it distracts from dealing with the very real enemy–a combination of the class enemy and plain stupidity, racism, and provincialism–and channelled fear–that we DO have to deal with. Because this too–the US rulers, quite possibly along with Russia’s rightwingers and some European controllers, are very concerned, in fact, about not only Iran but NORTH KOREA–and economically about China. They are playing chess. Keep you eye on the whole chessboard and the players, and don’t distract us or get distracted by centuries-old shibboleths. Tails don’t wag dogs.

    1. A piece of the puzzle is Israel and AIPAC genocide in Gaza. Funded by your tax dollars whether you want to hear it or not.

    2. Paula- this is largely an AIPAC – ergo, I.S.R.A.E.L.I. – spawned and supported bill. Deal with it. Some things are just what they ARE!
      There are ugly truths out there as surely as there are ugly lies:
      “The proposed measure, called the Israel Anti-Boycott Act (S. 720), was introduced by Cardin on March 23. The Jewish Telegraphic Agency reports that the bill “was drafted with the assistance of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee.” Indeed, AIPAC, in its 2017 lobbying agenda, identified passage of this bill as one of its top lobbying priorities for the year….”
      “The two primary sponsors of the bill are Democrat Ben Cardin of Maryland and Republican Rob Portman of Ohio. Perhaps the most shocking aspect is the punishment: Anyone guilty of violating the prohibitions will face a minimum civil penalty of $250,000 and a maximum criminal penalty of $1 million and 20 years in prison.”

      https://theintercept.com/…/u-s-lawmakers-seek-to…/

    3. David, yes that bill, of course, agreed. And don’t tell me, “Deal with it” if by that you mean to deligitimize my comment. Which is what telling people “Deal with it” or “Get over it” or etc. usually is. But I was not referring to that bill, on which I agree with you, but to the whole chessboard gaming among the major powers, which is badly heating up, with irresponsible US “leadership” at this nation’s helm. I suggest we focus on that critical matter (too).

    4. Paula Friedman thankyou for your voice of reason. I agree with you 100% about the tail wagging business. In this case i think the post was specifically about AIPAC and I see both points. In the terms of my preferred discourse the ‘enemy’ is the old empire of global finance capital, of which Israel is just a military/intelligence outpost – but to deny agency to agents like Saudi, Israel etc is overly simplistic. They may not ‘control’ the empire, but they surely have, to some extent at least, their own agendas.

    5. Paula Friedman – I WAS and AM referring to that bill because it is such an egregious example of overreach. And you know what else?
      You are the second person this week to show up out of nowhere to suddenly comment or even putatively ‘like’ a post of mine after months, if not a year of inactivity. The last was a CO2/climate change denier who actually TOLD me what I should be posting. That went over well. As is now, seemingly this. I wonder… all of the topics I cover, the many things of mutual and likely compelling mutual interest, nary a peep from you all this time. I mention AIPAC and Israel and it’s “Katy Bar the Door!” You’re all over it (me) like your computer has a hasbara warning buzzer attached to it. WTF is with that?

    6. I can see everyone’s points. With some exceptions maybe, the world is run by criminals. The various alliances are to pick the bones clean. We are all the host/$.

  2. Not to worry, at her first press conference,Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders is reading a letter from a 9 yr. old praising the President.

  3. Some Senators want to decriminalize the new law and make it a civil fine. If you boycott Israel or you participate in such, you may not be jailed but the fine will be up to 250K. Israel exerts it’s muscle once again. Through $$$$$$ and through AIPAC.

    1. ANY fine or penalty is a significant erosion of the Bill of Rights, bait and switch of the penalties only serves to cover the severity of the transgression in this instance.

    2. Much of what we “give” them is then immediately used to buy weapons from us. Everyone benefits. What irks me though is that health care and college in Israel is free and yet, yet, our people struggle along getting sicker, poorer and in more debt..

    3. Barbara, we’re struggling here because of our tax policies, military budget, and general “rich first” policies. You want to say it’s “israel” doing that, you’re not helping the working class.

    4. Paula Friedman I know why we are struggling. You have lost track of the original comment. It is about making it a FELONY to participate in protests around the BDS. A FELONY to participate in campus protests around Israel. Congress voted to do this. Congress is owned by Israel. Almost every single member of congress is given annual trips to Israel and treated like royalty besides the generous $$$$$$$$$$ donated to these congress members from AIPAC.

    5. Paula Friedman . . . and part of funding israeli in the total dollars we give–billions–them is part of that idea of the amount of money being siphoned off to support war in the middle east and “national defense”, instead of using that siphoned $$ to support things here at home . . .

    6. Barbara, yes thank you for the xplain to me, and yes, and (maybe you didn’t see it) I already noted (in response to David’s commen) that I agree re the wrongness (and presumably AIPAC-pushed) bill making that a felony.
      But see, the original comment David posted, and which the “Israel’s behind it” commentary seemed to concern, begins
      “One day it’s Boy Scouts, the next day it’s transgendered military ‘rights’ to fight the Empire’s Wars. What will tomorrow bring?
      Please, ……. don’t. I don’t wanna know.
      Because:
      Nothing about the whys or rationale regarding the Empire’s Wars.
      Because:
      Sanctions against Russia.
      Because: Syria and Yemen.
      Because: of a host of hugely significant and consequential actions going down right now whose thunderous implications are being stolen in the wake of the spurious DNC/Clinton Inc & Ilk Russian “hacking” allegations that are paving the way for Israel & AIPAC to rub our Bill of Rights in . . .”
      bringing the BDS issue in only on line 13, then seeming to say Israel’s behind the many items listed in lines 1-12, too.
      Well, if David waits to line 13 to bring in the 1 item out of 5 or 6 that he then replies to, I do not feel to be one who “lost track.” In fact, I’d say folks were/are focusing on rather a tiny, tiny part of the tracks that are—to be blunt—likely to lead us into WWIII, and they’re likely now not to run through the Middle East but through the South China Sea and/or the Koreas border. And that’s my real concern here. That and the GOP’s health-kill bill. They’re both seriously crucial.

    7. Mary, yes of course, we fund our military-helping puppets who’ve taken over Israel hugely; it’s part of funding our oil- and territorial- grabs. Do any of you feel even a bit for the ordinary people of Israel? Many many descend from workers who went there to escape severe racism (while othoh bringing along standard European whites-on-top racism like every white nation then), and to live in socialist or social-democrat or communist-like kibbutzes, which very early 1980s manipulations of Israel’s shekel mostly wiped out (cf. the same game played on S.A. countries, Poland, etc.–see Naomi Klein’s concept of shock docrine). These people are being used by the US and its puppets and being pushed more and more into a corner as, since those early 1980s, they’ve not the strength, anymore than has the US Left, to overturn the Netanyahu gang’s militarist puppets.Those people no more want US military dollars propping up their nation’s militarists than we want. Otoh, they’re now utterly dependent on this to not sink.

    8. Paula Friedman i think you were the only one who read into some kind of implication that Israel was causing lines 1-12 . . which goes back to your hyper sensitivity to ANYTHING regarding the mentioning of Israel and its present acts of atrocities towards Palestinians . . and now we have some kind of legal regulation that wants to prosecute any descent of Israel and its actions . . . Paula, have you ever considered that your hypersensitivity that made you think what David was saying was all Israel’s fault is the exact same kind of hypersensitivity that Israel and those who support her have regarding spoken descent and boycotting her actions, pushing them to lobby and write US legislation regarding those who dare to descent and/or speak of boycotting?

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One day it’s Boy Scouts, the next day it’s transgendered military ‘rights’ to fight the Empire’s Wars

One day it’s Boy Scouts, the next day it’s transgendered military ‘rights’ to fight the Empire’s Wars. What will tomorrow bring?
Please, ……. don’t. I don’t wanna know.
Because:
Nothing about the whys or rationale regarding the Empire’s Wars.
Because:
Sanctions against Russia.
Because: Syria and Yemen.
Because: of a host of hugely significant and consequential actions going down right now whose thunderous implications are being stolen in the wake of the spurious DNC/Clinton Inc & Ilk Russian “hacking” allegations that are paving the way for Israel & AIPAC to rub our Bill of Rights in our faces after using it to wipe their asses and hack loogies into it.
A fucking felony to criticize Israel. A minimum of a $250,000 fine and years in PRISON!!
WTF!, people, WTF? Have you lost your fucking marbles to be ignoring this?
MAYDAY! MAYDAY! MAYDAY!

25 thoughts on “One day it’s Boy Scouts, the next day it’s transgendered military ‘rights’ to fight the Empire’s Wars”

  1. David, it’s not “Israel and AIPAC” running the US government policies. It’s what’s called the Ruling Class. Okay? It’s not that I think you’re antisemitic, I’m sure you’re not, BUT you are using the old “Jews run everything” slur that does back to the Medieval period, and not only is it a slur but it distracts from dealing with the very real enemy–a combination of the class enemy and plain stupidity, racism, and provincialism–and channelled fear–that we DO have to deal with. Because this too–the US rulers, quite possibly along with Russia’s rightwingers and some European controllers, are very concerned, in fact, about not only Iran but NORTH KOREA–and economically about China. They are playing chess. Keep you eye on the whole chessboard and the players, and don’t distract us or get distracted by centuries-old shibboleths. Tails don’t wag dogs.

    1. A piece of the puzzle is Israel and AIPAC genocide in Gaza. Funded by your tax dollars whether you want to hear it or not.

    2. Paula- this is largely an AIPAC – ergo, I.S.R.A.E.L.I. – spawned and supported bill. Deal with it. Some things are just what they ARE!
      There are ugly truths out there as surely as there are ugly lies:
      “The proposed measure, called the Israel Anti-Boycott Act (S. 720), was introduced by Cardin on March 23. The Jewish Telegraphic Agency reports that the bill “was drafted with the assistance of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee.” Indeed, AIPAC, in its 2017 lobbying agenda, identified passage of this bill as one of its top lobbying priorities for the year….”
      “The two primary sponsors of the bill are Democrat Ben Cardin of Maryland and Republican Rob Portman of Ohio. Perhaps the most shocking aspect is the punishment: Anyone guilty of violating the prohibitions will face a minimum civil penalty of $250,000 and a maximum criminal penalty of $1 million and 20 years in prison.”

      https://theintercept.com/…/u-s-lawmakers-seek-to…/

    3. David, yes that bill, of course, agreed. And don’t tell me, “Deal with it” if by that you mean to deligitimize my comment. Which is what telling people “Deal with it” or “Get over it” or etc. usually is. But I was not referring to that bill, on which I agree with you, but to the whole chessboard gaming among the major powers, which is badly heating up, with irresponsible US “leadership” at this nation’s helm. I suggest we focus on that critical matter (too).

    4. Paula Friedman thankyou for your voice of reason. I agree with you 100% about the tail wagging business. In this case i think the post was specifically about AIPAC and I see both points. In the terms of my preferred discourse the ‘enemy’ is the old empire of global finance capital, of which Israel is just a military/intelligence outpost – but to deny agency to agents like Saudi, Israel etc is overly simplistic. They may not ‘control’ the empire, but they surely have, to some extent at least, their own agendas.

    5. Paula Friedman – I WAS and AM referring to that bill because it is such an egregious example of overreach. And you know what else?
      You are the second person this week to show up out of nowhere to suddenly comment or even putatively ‘like’ a post of mine after months, if not a year of inactivity. The last was a CO2/climate change denier who actually TOLD me what I should be posting. That went over well. As is now, seemingly this. I wonder… all of the topics I cover, the many things of mutual and likely compelling mutual interest, nary a peep from you all this time. I mention AIPAC and Israel and it’s “Katy Bar the Door!” You’re all over it (me) like your computer has a hasbara warning buzzer attached to it. WTF is with that?

    6. I can see everyone’s points. With some exceptions maybe, the world is run by criminals. The various alliances are to pick the bones clean. We are all the host/$.

  2. Not to worry, at her first press conference,Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders is reading a letter from a 9 yr. old praising the President.

  3. Some Senators want to decriminalize the new law and make it a civil fine. If you boycott Israel or you participate in such, you may not be jailed but the fine will be up to 250K. Israel exerts it’s muscle once again. Through $$$$$$ and through AIPAC.

    1. ANY fine or penalty is a significant erosion of the Bill of Rights, bait and switch of the penalties only serves to cover the severity of the transgression in this instance.

    2. Much of what we “give” them is then immediately used to buy weapons from us. Everyone benefits. What irks me though is that health care and college in Israel is free and yet, yet, our people struggle along getting sicker, poorer and in more debt..

    3. Barbara, we’re struggling here because of our tax policies, military budget, and general “rich first” policies. You want to say it’s “israel” doing that, you’re not helping the working class.

    4. Paula Friedman I know why we are struggling. You have lost track of the original comment. It is about making it a FELONY to participate in protests around the BDS. A FELONY to participate in campus protests around Israel. Congress voted to do this. Congress is owned by Israel. Almost every single member of congress is given annual trips to Israel and treated like royalty besides the generous $$$$$$$$$$ donated to these congress members from AIPAC.

    5. Paula Friedman . . . and part of funding israeli in the total dollars we give–billions–them is part of that idea of the amount of money being siphoned off to support war in the middle east and “national defense”, instead of using that siphoned $$ to support things here at home . . .

    6. Barbara, yes thank you for the xplain to me, and yes, and (maybe you didn’t see it) I already noted (in response to David’s commen) that I agree re the wrongness (and presumably AIPAC-pushed) bill making that a felony.
      But see, the original comment David posted, and which the “Israel’s behind it” commentary seemed to concern, begins
      “One day it’s Boy Scouts, the next day it’s transgendered military ‘rights’ to fight the Empire’s Wars. What will tomorrow bring?
      Please, ……. don’t. I don’t wanna know.
      Because:
      Nothing about the whys or rationale regarding the Empire’s Wars.
      Because:
      Sanctions against Russia.
      Because: Syria and Yemen.
      Because: of a host of hugely significant and consequential actions going down right now whose thunderous implications are being stolen in the wake of the spurious DNC/Clinton Inc & Ilk Russian “hacking” allegations that are paving the way for Israel & AIPAC to rub our Bill of Rights in . . .”
      bringing the BDS issue in only on line 13, then seeming to say Israel’s behind the many items listed in lines 1-12, too.
      Well, if David waits to line 13 to bring in the 1 item out of 5 or 6 that he then replies to, I do not feel to be one who “lost track.” In fact, I’d say folks were/are focusing on rather a tiny, tiny part of the tracks that are—to be blunt—likely to lead us into WWIII, and they’re likely now not to run through the Middle East but through the South China Sea and/or the Koreas border. And that’s my real concern here. That and the GOP’s health-kill bill. They’re both seriously crucial.

    7. Mary, yes of course, we fund our military-helping puppets who’ve taken over Israel hugely; it’s part of funding our oil- and territorial- grabs. Do any of you feel even a bit for the ordinary people of Israel? Many many descend from workers who went there to escape severe racism (while othoh bringing along standard European whites-on-top racism like every white nation then), and to live in socialist or social-democrat or communist-like kibbutzes, which very early 1980s manipulations of Israel’s shekel mostly wiped out (cf. the same game played on S.A. countries, Poland, etc.–see Naomi Klein’s concept of shock docrine). These people are being used by the US and its puppets and being pushed more and more into a corner as, since those early 1980s, they’ve not the strength, anymore than has the US Left, to overturn the Netanyahu gang’s militarist puppets.Those people no more want US military dollars propping up their nation’s militarists than we want. Otoh, they’re now utterly dependent on this to not sink.

    8. Paula Friedman i think you were the only one who read into some kind of implication that Israel was causing lines 1-12 . . which goes back to your hyper sensitivity to ANYTHING regarding the mentioning of Israel and its present acts of atrocities towards Palestinians . . and now we have some kind of legal regulation that wants to prosecute any descent of Israel and its actions . . . Paula, have you ever considered that your hypersensitivity that made you think what David was saying was all Israel’s fault is the exact same kind of hypersensitivity that Israel and those who support her have regarding spoken descent and boycotting her actions, pushing them to lobby and write US legislation regarding those who dare to descent and/or speak of boycotting?

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